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[DIY] 【原创】HP 8570W RTX upgrade

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发表于 2024-3-22 21:55:47| 字数 2,436| - 波兰 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
本帖最后由 Mashcar12 于 2024-3-22 22:02 编辑

Hi everyone, I thought you may find my thread interesing, so here I am.
I bought and repaired not working 8570w 3 years ago, fuse was broken. I had upgraded it since then, went from Quadro K2000M to GTX980M, then P5200M and finally stopped at RTX 5000 Max Q.
Cpu upgraded to 3940XM, DDR 2133 MHZ, wifi + bt AX210. LCD is dreamcolor2 assembly from 8560w.

Final upgrade to RTX possible only in 15 inch version, because HP card is not standarized 3.0B mxm format. In 8770w keyboard connector is collinding with pcb, in 8570w you have to desolder touchpoint, touchpad and fingerprint scanner, but you can solder smd fpc conn for touchpad and fingerprint. DVD connector also needs to be removed, case a bit dremeled. One keyboard mounting point needs to be removed from keyboard plate. For heatsink is best used electrical oven with thermostat and temp control, very good practice is to use external thermometer.  Use low temperature solder paste (138 degrees celsius), set oven temp between 140/145 (heatpipes wont blow). For joining parts use metal spring clamps. After installing card you need to use NVClean to mod nvidia drivers.
I also use spare damaged board with case, I can get very good aligment for heatsink and silicon die-copper block space, like from factory.
Now I have to make cad file for making copper block cnc'ed for best thermal option possible. After that I think my project will be done.

There is video on YT with benchmarks and gaming on P5200, I will make another for when I will be ready with RTX.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkPddS9HQQw

By the way, how I can use Master Lu benchmark ? I tried to use, so it would be closest to others project on 51nb, but even with translator I had problem finding out how it works.

I share my experience with you because when you take something you have to give also something back. So I share with you, this forum have many talented people here . Thank you for your time and have a nice day.
Cheers from Poland.

Gallery:
GPU-Z:


Firestrike result for Zbook 17 G6:


Firestrike result for 8570w with RTX:


NVclean settings for 8570w and RTX 5000:


MXM RTX origin:

Card itself, compared to M3000M:


Some comparisons:




Connectors vs. MXM pcb:


Soldering in oven:


Temporary solution for RTX heatsink:


Exhaust mod 8570w:


Keyboard mounting point in new place (for restoring original 3 screw points to base, keyboard base plate is mounted with screws):


Firestrike P5200M 8570W:

P5200 card and my heatsink project for it (seen in work in video):

Other stuff (and startup comparison old vs. new):




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主板上打固定螺丝孔的位置,是关键点。
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NVclean是用来改id装驱动的吗,不用手动一个个改了?
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看这意思是8770w上不了?
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 楼主| 发表于 2024-3-26 15:28:55| 字数 393| - 波兰 | 显示全部楼层
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Yes, with NVClean you set up settings one time, then when you update drivers it uses same config for your upgraded card, no need to manually edit inf files. You don't have to enter safe mode without signed drivers, because NVCleans patches driver. I recommend it.
About 8770W, it is possible, but there is bigger challenge. Keyboard fpc cable connector is where RTX pcb stick out. Keyboard connector is a loooot of pain to make it work versus 2x 6 pin connector on 8570w
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Yes, with NVClean you set up settings one time, then when you update drivers it uses same conf ...

Oh, I see, thanks.
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Cool customized!

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Thanks ! I look forward to making 4K elitebook like you did ! Good job !  发表于 2024-4-16 18:55
【8770W-3940XM-4K MiniLED 100Hz】【Precision 6700-3940XM-4K MiniLED 105Hz】
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本帖最后由 Mashcar12 于 2024-5-9 19:00 编辑

Hello ! I have very good news. Card is now 100% compatible with system!

Before, if driver not initialized, GPU clocks to maximum, overheating very fast. It happens in BIOS setup, when installing OS or until drivers are installed. But even after installation, I saw problem with weird power usage..
Now everything works, and can't be sure, but it could PROPABLY solve P5200 problem - it didn't drive fans ! May solve AMD cards problem too. For now I don't have backup board or MXM cards.

I checked schematics between 8570W board and PCH HUB vs. zbook g6. I saw missing one PCIe Express signal - GPU CLOCK REQUEST. It is used for correctly driving GPU clock for lower power states. In 8570W QM77 chipset they made all logics for it to work (as MXM 3.1 specification requires) but didn't connect it physically. I will upload image which resistor you need to add (3rd one from bottom). Just 0 ohm one. It is near middle mxm slot.

Now laptop is very silent in every scenario and compatible with Turing, cool as ice and more energy efficient. I made displayport external output work too, you just need to use MSI vbios 90.04.97.00.B5. HP original one won't display on external panel and works on 90W TGP (MSI is 80W)

I search for spare 8570W for next project, I want to make modding easier for everyone - I plan to make guide how to mod display cable to connect eDP LCD panel. You won't need very rare and expensive Dreamcolor assembly.




Heatsink not completed, learning CAD from 0 is tough, mostly because not a lot of free time lately. But one day I will finish it..


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Hello ! I have very good news. Card is now 100% compatible with system!

Before, if driver not initi ...

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AX210 bluetooth working, just run 2 cables from BT connector (4 pin Data- and 3 pin Data+) to WLAN connector (38 pin Data+ and 36 Data-). Double check for shorts to ground or between them, use UV mask and voila!  No more weak BT 4.2 and bad reception with BT earphones. Now Bluetooth entered year 2024

Soldered touchpad and fingerprint sensor connectors back. Changed Dreamcolor2 board from 8560w to zbook 17g2 blue one. Now I have correct calibrations profiles from factory! Perfect! White is white, black is black and good gamma now.

i1 display pro from x-rite didn't work with board, though. Program found LCD but couldn't connect to profiles from DC board, I even tried different Windows and put original Quadro K1000M. Didn't worked. I saw in changelog there was compability with i1d3 xrite added, so maybe that one would work..

With patience will come last things to do.

If you have questions, ask! And thanks for reading !


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