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In the latest chapter of “response to the onslaught of reader’s requests,” we’ve decided to put the Nokia E71 and the BlackBerry Bold head-to-head. While both are totally different breeds of devices, they do share a number of similarities and are targeted to the same demographic. You’ve got two enterprise handsets with QWERTY keyboards, cameras, Wi-Fi, 3G, corporate email, great battery life, etc. Click on through to see which device wins out in this epic showdown of QWERTY gone violent.
We used some of the information from our Bold vs. iPhone post since in most cases it was exactly the same.



Design
BlackBerry Bold:
Some could agree the Bold is the sharpest and cleanest-looking BlackBerry ever to come out of Waterloo. With a complete black face, chrome border and sides, and faux black leather back, the device looks great. From all the matching chrome accents all over the phone to the simple and not confusing layout, RIM has designed a great BlackBerry which should set the bar for future devices down the road.
Nokia E71: Nokia, Nokia, Nokia…aw, who are we kidding? The E71 is one of the nicest designs to have come out of Espoo as of late. With a real metal structure (read: plastic BlackBerry Bold), great materials, and some pretty slick engineering, the E71 looks awesome. Well, except for the vicious red power button. Totally ruined it for us, Noke.
Build quality
BlackBerry Bold:
The BlackBerry Bold is built extremely well. Not including minor screen scratches and things of that nature, the Bold should be able to last you as long as you want to keep the thing. The unit is a little lighter than it looks and there no creaks or anything to get you worried about. The only negative thing we’d have to say, it that the build quality on the BlackBerry Curve slightly trumps the Bold. We’d ever go as far to say that the 8800 does too. But not the Pearl. Hell no.
Nokia E71: Again, Nokia hits it out of the park. Nokias have great build quality for the most part across the board, as do BlackBerrys, but the E71 is built like an absolute tank. Literally. We don’t think we could break this thing if we tried.

Size
The Bold is the biggest BlackBerry to be released in a pretty long time. Well, since the 8700. It is larger in every way than the BlackBerry 8800 and can sometimes feel a little hard to hold in one hand. It’s definitely no Curve. Comparing it the E71, the E71 feels much better when holding it, but since the Bold’s keyboard makes use of the larger size, we’re going to call this one a tie because of the pretty comfy Bold QWERTY.
Nokia E71: If you had to shrink 3G, Wi-Fi, GPS, a camera, physical QWERTY keyboard, and other components into the smallest package possible, what would get? Most likely an E71. We don’t think the device could be any smaller, though the small size does hinder the QWERTY keyboard slightly. Everything else is well balanced, and it makes the Bold seem like this huge Dark Knight hovering over it, jealous it can’t shed a couple inches on its waistline.
Screen:
We’re sticking to the “BlackBerry Bold’s screen is the best. mobile. device. screen. ever.” line. Sorry, Nokia, but the E71s screen as decent as it is, can not hold a candle to the Bolds rich, sharp, and spaceous display.
OS
BlackBerry Bold:
This is a tricky and sensitive subject for a lot of people. Many of us live and die by the BlackBerry OS. Some could say we even know it better than we know some of our significant others… But therein lies the problem. While RIM has been on a mission to revamp the BlackBerry from the old school “pager” into an all-in-one communications device for consumers and business alike, we can’t help but wonder when the OS will get a real makeover. Not a Mariah Carey cover page airbrushed makeover, more like a Carnie Wilson 300lbs to 150lbs makeover. But, we do have to say that RIM has a great thing going. The BlackBerry minions have figured out every single tip and trick there is to squeeze every ounce of usability out the operating system, and for a lot of people, the OS is fine. It does what it is supposed to, and there is nothing wrong with that. It’s just that the market has changed so drastically in the last year and half. People want to be connected more, they want to do more while doing less.
Nokia E71: S60, huh? We’d have really liked to see FP2 make it to the E71 out of the gate. Anyone that’s not a current Nokia user might have a bit of trouble dealing with access points, configuring their email, and getting around. This is a tricky subject as there are no doubt some die-hard Nokia fans, but we’d so S60 is showing its age a lot at this current point in time, just as RIM’s OS. What you do get with S60, however, is a ton of great 3rd party applications. We think you’d hard pressed to find more than 10-15 useful applications for the BlackBerry platform, whereas you have thousands for S60.
Call quality / RF performance
This has been explored before, but we find the Nokia E71 to be one of the worst performing Nokia handsets in the RF department. That compared to the outstanding reception on the Bold leaves us without too much faith that the E71 will be able to handle our daily usage in low signal areas. In terms of call quality, the Bold did a much better job at delivering us a clear and loud call, while the E71 often garbled our voice to the party on the other end. Speakerphone was the same with the Bold performing better than the E71.

Battery life
You’d be surprised, but we’ve found the Bold and E71 to go toe for toe in our battery tests. They both last longer than any other 3G device we’ve used, but to be fair, since the E71 isn’t the best RF signal holder, the Bold was on 3G more than the E71, and the E71 was rarely on Wi-Fi. We say the Bold inches out the E71 in the battery department.
Email
BlackBerry Bold:
Listen, you can’t throw around the word “BlackBerry” without thinking about email. That’s RIM bread and butter, and we don’t see that changing for a very long time. There are probably 500 competitors vying for the title of “Best. Email. Ever.”, but they’re not coming close anytime soon. While Windows Mobile offers some of the same feature-set, there is nothing like using a BlackBerry for email. From changing your out of office message, to configuring email filters on the go (what, you think we actually get all 6,000 comments from our iPhone 3G giveaway post on our BlackBerry?), to remote searching (awesome!), RIM has perfected email on the BlackBerry for the most part. When new features like full attachment viewing and HTML get introduced, though, it gets a little murky. Instead of viewing attachments natively off the bat on your BlackBerry, RIM’s data network will compress and send you what you need bit by bit. There is also a clear separation between RIM’s BES services and BIS services, and they are totally unnecessary. There is no reason we should have the ability to view HTML on BIS, but not on BES yet (unless you hacked that in), and there is no reason file type support is so convoluted. For instance, we can listen to our voicemail MP3s on our BIS email, but not on BES because even the latest BES service pack still doesn’t support the encoding used in our MP3s. Things like this really confuse users and there’s no reason for it. BIS features should mirror BES features as much as possible and be upgraded at the same time. If we have to email an attachment from our BES to one of our BIS email accounts one more time…
Nokia E71: Email is email for Nokia. There’s no HTML support, there’s really not a lot of configurable options when using an Exchange server, and the email application isn’t the most reliable thing under the sun in general. As far as comparing it to email on a BlackBerry… well, we won’t even go there. It would take a couple more days to list all the issues and inconsistencies with Nokia’s default email application. We’re not saying it’s terrible, it is definitely usable, but it’s not something we’d like to use. Get it?
Keyboard
Another tricky subject. You’ve got the Bold which mashes up the Curve, the Pearl, and the 8800’s keyboard, and you’ve got the E71 which takes its cues from the E61i. If we could fault the E71’s keyboard, it would be that it is a little too small to use 100% comfortably. We’d also point out the stupidity of their keyboard layout once again. Get it through your heads, the “Z” key NEVER goes directly under the “A” key. That’s not how it’s done, boys. The keyboard does give you a nice response when pushed, and the keys are a bit on the hard side, but that actually works well on the phone. With the Bold, we find ourselves banging away emails like we’ve always done — that’s great. RIM didn’t mess with success here.
Corporate usage
BlackBerry Bold:
RIM has made the BlackBerry the hands-down winner for a perfect desktop extension. Pretty much whatever you can do from Outlook on your Exchange server, you can do from your BlackBerry. In addition to looking at the device specifically, RIM’s BES server offers the now standard way of managing, controlling, and deploying devices across a corporate infrastructure. Their BES servers allow IT admins to tweak and configure every possible setting, making this is the ideal solution for mid-to-large businesses and government agencies. RIM’s focus on security also make the BlackBerry the most secure device on the planet to use in a corporate environment.
Nokia E71: And dropped BlackBerry Connect again why? Not a good idea, guys. At least as far as the U.S. market is concerned. You had a device which would have been bought by the pound and used by a lot of corporate executives along with their BES, giving them an opportunity to venture outside of the immediate BlackBerry world. You now have to deal with people buying devices personally for the most part, and at + / - $500 with no discount for corporate volume purchases, it’s going to be a tough sell. Especially considering MailForExchange’s shortcomings.

Pricing:
BlackBerry Bold: The Bold’s pricing hasn’t been revealed yet, but it’s going to be in the $199-$299 price range with a two-year agreement. Or three if you’re unlucky to be a slave to Ted Rogers.
Nokia E71: The E71 is priced at $499 at Nokia stores directly, but you most likely can find it for around $420-$475 depending where you shop.
Conclusion:
It’s a little hard to put this but… we absolutely loved the Nokia E71. It was the best S60 we’d ever used. And it still is, some would argue. There is no doubt it is the finest QWERTY device Nokia has made. Don’t bring up the E90, ok? Even though we had used a Bold prior to our Nokia E71 first review, it wasn’t until we had both devices together that we really had our mind change. This is a personal opinion here, but the BlackBerry Bold smokes the E71 out of the water in so many ways. The E71 is fine as a personal communication device, but once you enter into the realm of corporate email, or even small business, for that matter, the Bold is the reigning king, and will stay that way for a pretty long time.

文章从QWERTY键盘,摄像头, Wi-Fi,3G,企业电子邮件,电池续航时间等方面入手对此二机进行比较,为终端用户提供了一些参考~~~

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E71的键盘我总觉得不够人体工学,没有弧度啊。
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[对比]BOLD大战E71

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链接:http://berrytimes.cn/2008/08/13/bold-vs-e71/

大战系列已经有点历史了,之前有老米写的BlackBerry大战Treo,过去还有Jun4rui专稿的Treo680大战Curve,今天大战的两位对手绝对都重量级的,一方是还未发售已经被炒作的沸沸扬扬且一路跳票的黑莓次世代手机Bold9000,一方是同样有着全键盘的Nokia的E系列新贵E71。毫无疑问这必然是一场类似奥运赛场上男子110M跨栏刘翔vs罗博斯的生死之战,看点满赛!文章来自我超爱的BGR网站,它总是能够提供足够重量级的猛料好文,这个恐怕是大家都最爱看的特性之一了吧。
Nokia E71 vs. BlackBerry Bold: the QWERTYs rip each other to shreds
Posted by The Boy Genius on Aug 12, 2008 2:59 pm
翻译 by youzang on 08年8月13日上次就答应大家把E71Bold放在一起来对比一下,两者都算很赞的机器,并且有很多设计上的共同点甚至是瞄准了共同的人群。就如大家看得到的,全键盘、摄像头、WiFi、3G、整合邮件系统,良好的电池续航能力等等。今天让这俩一绝高下吧!
我也参考和用到了一些上次Bold大战水果时候的一些信息放到这篇文章里了,因为有很多地方是类似的。

设计
黑莓Bold:一部分会同意我的说法,Bold绝对是最犀利外表最干净利落的黑莓型号。完全黑色正面,硬朗的侧边设计,背面皮革质感让整体看起来非常舒服,外观简练毫不拖沓。应该说RIM设计了一款开创次世代黑莓标杆的新型手机。
Nokia E71:诺基亚啊诺基亚!这真的不是闹着玩的设计,E71金属构造外表(注意Bold还是塑料的),优质的材质,漂亮的工业设计,E71看上去绝对不凡。当然,除了那个红色的Power按键,我觉得是点睛败笔。
制作工艺
黑莓BoldBold制作堪称完美,无论是大屏幕的外表光滑处理还是整体感觉。Bold应该是可以让你爱不释手的手机外形,上手的感觉总体来说比我们之前预想的要轻便,如果一定要说还有不完美的地方的话,就是做工工艺方面我仍然觉得Curve在Bold之上,就好比8800的做工在粗劣的Pearl之上一样。
Nokia E71Nokia这次打出了漂亮的一球!E71外观上制作精细,外观整体感很好,基本无懈可击。

尺寸:
自从8700以来,Bold是目前最巨的黑莓手机,相信一段时间都会如此吧。Bold应该说各个方面都比8800要大那么点,有些时候你甚至可能觉得会一手难以掌握,这个和Curve是不同。E71来说手拿就轻松多了,但说回来Bold的大一些的键盘按键和舒适感,究竟如何取舍,我觉得还是见仁见智的问题了。
Nokia E71:你想要一台机器制霸了3G,WiFi,摄像头,物理全键盘,和其他这这那那的,貌似最后答案都会转到E71了。我们甚至觉得机器没法再小了,也考虑到更小的机身会影响到全键盘的每一个按键的大小。整体机型特性照顾得很平衡取舍,对比起来让Bold凸显如同庞然大物,又如无论如何也减不下腰围的减肥者。
屏幕:
我还是坚持Bold的屏幕是最赞的,没~有~之~一~。对不住了E71,虽然E71屏幕也没什么可说道的,但在华丽的Bold锐利宽大的显示前,还是无法超越。
操作系统OS
黑莓Bold
这个话题估计不少玩家关注,太多人比较依赖黑莓操作系统。有人把其OS捧上了天,但的确有问题的。RIM好比一直在把一个老式的寻呼机改版为一个高集成度一体化的通讯工具,且让其更加商务,我们不得不考虑,什么时候OS能够真正的整合到很好的地步。要的不是Mariah Carey上杂志封面的化妆前后效果那种转变,而是Carnie Wilson从300磅减到150磅的效果。实际上RIM目前做得还不错,在很多细微之处非常下功夫,绝大多数的黑莓使用者都对目前的OS比较满意和赞扬。问题只是在过去的一年半里,用户们的口味被吊的越来越高,人们总想着:”操作再简便一些吧!功能再丰富一些吧!“
Nokia E71:S60,没错。非N饭可能在处理连接点(access point)、设置邮件等等设置的时候比较烦躁,这当然对于骨灰级N饭毫无难度。此外S60上有海量的第三方程序,而在黑莓上你要找到10-15个真正算得上有用和常用的程序都比较困难,而S60上数量上千啊。
通话质量 / 信号表现
之前探讨过,我们失望的发现E71可能是Nokia手机中RF表现最糟糕的机型之一了。E71在日常遇到信号较弱区域表现不济的时候,Bold都给出了杰出的信号连贯连接的表现。关于通话质量,Bold通话清晰响亮,E71则可能讲这端的人声在另一端变成了一群人开会。免提的表现不多说了,同样bold胜出。

电池续航能力
你会惊讶于这个结果,那就是基本二者测试中打个了平手。二者都比我们测试过的其他3G手机使用时间更长。不过公平的再评判下,考虑到E71并不能保持更好的信号表现,Bold的3G在线和使用频率以及WiFi试用更频繁,所以应该说还是Bold稍稍的续航能力更强一些。
邮件
黑莓Bold
现在已经无法把邮件和Blackberry分开来说了,邮件是RIM的面包和奶酪是生存之道,长时间以来RIM也都是打邮件牌。约500家左右的竞争对手在窥争“Best Email Ever”的称号,但能够真正接近的很少。Windows Mobile也提供了一整套邮件方案,但是依然和黑莓邮件试用没有相似的感觉。无论是更改你的不在office信息设置,还是设置你的邮件过滤器(你认为转让iPhone 3g的帖子会收到6000个回复?),还是控制搜索,RIM的email系统都提供了超完美解决方案。比如全新的附件浏览全支持和html邮件格式,虽然目前还未完全浮出水面,但至少不用那么费劲,RIM的数据网络会一点点的将你需要的东西提交给你。另外在RIM的BES服务和BIS服务之间也有明显的区分,这个完全没有必要了。也许在BIS上找不到理由必须要浏览html格式邮件,但BES还不行。而且文件输入支持如此难搞也显得没有道理啊。比如说,我们可以听取在BIS的邮件上听MP3的语音邮件,但是BES上没戏,因为最新的BES服务包依然不支持mp3的解码。想想看确实让人困惑且听起来没有道理。BIS应该和BES特性上如出一辙且同步完善更新。想想看当我们需要通过BES系统给我一个BIS的email账户发送一个带附件的邮件的情形吧…
Nokia E71: 这是Nokia的Email,没有html支持,试用Exchange server的时候,也有没有太多的设置,老实说email程序也不是最值得信赖的。和黑莓email对比的话…好吧,不说了。如果要把目前Nokia的默认email程序存在的问题和不兼容列个清单可能得好好几天时间。我不是说糟糕透顶的意思,基本试用其实是ok的,但我不爱用。就这个意思。
键盘
另一个焦点话题,Bold是超越Curve,Pearl和8800的全新键盘,E71是秉承E6li的全新N记键盘。如果要给E71键盘挑点毛病来说,键盘稍微的有点小,而不是100%的使用舒服。另外要说的是E71键盘的布局恐怕不是太理想,想想看,Get it through your heads, the “Z” key NEVER goes directly under the “A” key. That’s not how it’s done, boys. 不过按键回弹很好,稍微硬一点,整体在手机上表现还不错。Bole来说我们发现敲打email毫无生疏感。RIM这一点总是不错的。
整合使用
黑莓Bold
RIM这方面做得很好,你在Exchange server上的Outlook可以做的,在黑莓上基本都能实现。RIM的BES server提供了整合结构下对手机的新的标准方式的管理、控制、配置。他们的BES server允许IT管理员实现各种设定的变更和设置,这对于壮大成长型商务以及ZF部门是重要的解决方案要素。而RIM对于信息安全长期以来的注重也使其成为全球商业应用最安全和最值得信赖的信息终端。
Nokia E71
你花了不少钱购买了设备,提供给公司的老总使用BES,他们可能在外面使用过程中遇到众多的黑莓用户且貌似承担着数据安全的危险。你需要面对的情况是,人们购买绝大多数东西,其大宗的企业购入,加减500美刀也毫无折扣。这种情况下,卖出去东西真的很艰难。尤其是考虑到Mail for Exchange的诸多缺点。

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Bold的定价还未最后明朗化,大致位于199-299美刀的范围,当然是2年签约协议价格。也可能是3年的协议,如果你正好点儿背的位于Ted Rogers的统治势力范围中。
Nokia E71Nokia销售店内是499美刀,你也可以在很多其他渠道找到420-475美刀的价格。
总结:
总结是个不好办的事情,不过还是的说的。我绝对是喜爱N71的,它曾经是目前我用过最赞的S60系统,当然到现在也没有被超越,关于这点有一些争议,咱们就不多说了。另外毫无疑问他也是N记目前最好的全键盘手机。现在表提E90,ok?虽然我是先上手了Bold,后接触到E71的首度评测的,但直到我两台机器都上手了我才改变了自己的观点。以上都是我个人的看法,但黑莓Bold在多方面优于E71.作为个人通讯工具,E71相当不错,但只要牵扯到企业邮件服务等项目,甚至是一点点和商业有关的牵连,那么Bold才是王道,并且会制霸较长一段时间。
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一机在手,别无他求
不知道用什么好
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没用过N记手机不予评价,正用7290,觉得黑莓很实用,常用软件都有了,而且耐摔
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真的吗?告诉我一个好用的看书软件和输入法
选择淡泊!
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看书MOBI还凑合,anyview听说不错还没用过;
输入法如果用五笔的话考虑autotext方式。
T60 / T420s
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我看书用的MOBI,输入法是拼音,定义了很多快捷键
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